See too Fuel mixture screws adjustment clicking here and Carb diaphragm repair at Tips & Fixes section
ESSENTIAL: Morgan vacuum gauge. Mine is 24 years old and still perfectly working. Money well invested
Before modifying anything we must prepare the bike, because any modification could result in any mechanical problem emerged, not properly from the tuning, and we could be crazy before to find it.
My advice is a previous valve adjustment. When the carbs dismounted, check the carb slide diaphragms for holes and fix them as I state at the Fix & Tips section
TIP: pilot screws setting is 2 turns out from fully in, recommended from FJ 1100 to FJ 1200 1990. Workshop manual change the settings to 3 turns out in the last FJ (1991 on). Try 3 turn out in outer cylinders and 3 1/4 at the inner cylinders in whatever would be yours, like a starting point to perform the mixture screws procedure set up. You will get a sweet idle.
TIP 2: when you get synchronized you carburettors, apply a little spot of screws glue between in your sync screws, after you have get the correct balance. DON'T USE CIANOCRILATE BASED GLUE (Loctite or similar), only special screws glue. It is because the sync screws are made from soft steel and you could damage them
TIP 3: the float bowl vent tubes can upset carb function if improperly routed. By shortening or removing these, you will prevent this from occurring (nº 6 at the microfiche). It must be 4 long tubes, from the each carb to the down side of the motorbike
Tests to perform in order to obtain a good carburetion set up
To modify needles and/or jets with the fitment of a carburetion kit or to find the correct set up for your new airbox or exhaust mod I've development this procedure, slightly different form that provided by Dynojet kits.
1.- Synchronize the carbs with the vacuum gauge
2.- Adjust the mixture screws like I explain at the above link starting from the OE settings plus 1/2 turn out or from those recommended for your kit plus 1/4 turn out the inner carbs.
At this point the bike must keep a good idle and be quick responsive to the throttle. There must be no problems too riding at low speed, at around 2.500 - 3.000 rpm.
To perform the following tests I look for a quite and clear straight road, lightly uphill if it is possible to further expose any problem.
After a 15 min calm riding in order to warm the oil, apply full throttle in 3er and in 4th gear to 10.000 rpm. (you're in an airport or you're crazy if you do in 5th)
If the bike stalls or stumble or pauses or can't reach the rpm. limit from 7.000 rpm. and above, the problem is the main jet. To have an easy approach to your main jet change I test the bike again without the air filter in order to lean the mixture. If the problem was a lean mixture, it would be worst. If the problem attenuate, the mixture is rich. So change according the problem and test again.
Only you must perform this test when test 1 is satisfactory and the main jet that gives more power and acceleration is installed.
Open 1/4 to 1/2 throttle from 2.000 rpm. until 7.000 rpm, in 3rd and 4th gears.
If there is any problem this is due to the needle height. If the problem is worst when hot then the mixture is too rich. If the bike runs well when hot but there is problems between 4.000 - 7.000 rpm, the mixture is lean.
I recommend increase or decrease the needle height in 1/2 steps, simply placing a shim under the needle clip to raise the needle 1/2 position to enriching the mixture, or raising the clip 1 position and placing the shim under the clip, to lean the mixture.
If the problem decreases, go to the 1/2 next position until the problem appears again, then go back to the previous best setting.
K & N air filter:
Fit one of them and you will not change your air filter never again. Only wash it after a 30.000 km period with a degreasing product (I use Fairy or KH) , re-oil and fit again (only with a little thin of oil, don't over oil the filter or it could be useless) . And you will gain in accelerator response at low and middle rpm, just where you need it. ESSENTIAL
Individual cone / individual filters: KN or Unipod
I make a lot of experiments with KN individual filters in my FJ 1100 and in my first FJ 1200. Even you get power gains when correctly set up, I think that there are some reasons to NOT RECOMMEND these
1.-the clamps on don’t stay fixed and they fall from their position. The Unipods look better at this respect
2.-you need a crankcase breather hose filter, and even with it, you will get your motor with oil splashed around. Look at the picture: it comes from the Yamaha workshop manual and it represents the oil vent circuit. Well, all that oil will splash around your bike when the crankcase filter saturate (very soon)
3,-without the airbox the carbs and the individuals are holding of the intake manifolds only. It is possible than all that weight could affect the conducts, breaking them
4.-the bike is affected for humidity and temperature changes very easily. And it goes like a pig when raining
5.- the oil vapours secondary system is in fact a closed system designed to drive the crankcase vapours to the cylinder heads. This "fog", direct product of the crank splashes when the engine is working, is beneficial for lubricating the upper cylinder that it is not washed by this "fog", since it is prevented by the scraper ring.
Water vapours mixed with the intake gases in small proportion increase gasoline antiknock proprieties, making them beneficial too and, finally, gasoline vapours that are drawn from the crankcase improve the quality of fuel mixture and so are used to the benefit of engine performance.
In fact in my CBX 750, Honda had to install an oil pressure system like this since 1985, and retrofit the previous models with the upgrade, due to the first CBX series without this system showed excessive wear on the valve guides, first beneficiaries of this system for the extra lubrication between admission valve and guide.
Fitting a cheap stage 1 with OE elements
- Race exhaust. The FJ power is hidden at the exhaust
- Open air filter, with a grill to avoid big bugs and stones
- 112,5 main jets instead of OE 110 mm ones. (3CV73XW models)
- Air mixture screws around 4 turns out to avoid explosions when retention on throttle closed, or 45 mm pilot jets with 1 1/2 turns out, like I say below
At the photo there are an European needle vs. a USA one. The only difference is the European regulation possibility, instead of the USA only position, but the USA position is exactly at the same point than the middle European needle OE setting (except Swiss model)
If we fit the KN and fit an open cans only it is not necessary to modify anything. With your OE needle position and main jets your FJ is set up very rich enough to compensate. Only set correctly the air mixture screws
RECOMMENDED. The main gains is less measurable in power output than in throttle response: the bike accelerates faster & sweeter, with a wonderful response to throttle inputs and a addictive hungry for revolutions.
Even with the open airbox I don't recommend to fit the Stage 3 main jets: the carburetion is too rich
And the conclusion is..
After 4 FJ and lots of test with them, I believe that I've arrive to the perfect power / reliability / push / throttle response / civility balance. These are my settings
- 5º ignition advancer
- Airbox modified
- Open cans and exhaust pan. I think it is a better compromise that a 4/1 exhaust, with a comparable even bigger total gas outer and with less sound
- Dynojet stage 1 as stated. DJ 108 mains. Dynojet pilot air jets & needle springs installed and slides drilled
- 42,5 mm pilot jets with mixture screws around 4 turns out. With 45 mm. pilot jets, not included at the kit, 1 1/2 turns out
- Float bowls settled to 22 mm., measured as stated at the workshop manual
After more than 150.000 kms the can ends were black and the engine had lost part of its wonderful grunt, apart of the misfiring on the exhaust, no more little sounds when throttle closing, true explosions when closing throttle at any rpm.
The emulsion tubes get oval due to the erosion that the mixture produces when passing by the tube along the time, so more fuel passes and the mixture goes too rich and out of the correct parameters. See the left side pic.
Like a complete carb rebuild kit cost the same as only the emulsion tubes, I rebuilt my carbs to as new performance. I've changed pilot jets, float valves & seats, emulsion tubes, air pilot jets, repaired 2 little pins with PlastiDip in a slide diaphragm, air mixture screw assays, cleaned everything, carefully checked float bowls fuel level and adjusted to the standard limit value of 24,3 mm. like it is explained at the workshop manual.
suppress or at least minimize backfires, and more if you have raised the rear like
me, drop the level of your floats by a small amount at a time
and it will go away. To lower the fuel level in your float bowls
(by raising your floats) you need to physically bend the tang
(down) just a little bit at a time, be gentle.
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The only problem was to dismantled the screw that holds the float valve in place. A pair of hammer blows with the screwdriver in place to reduce the aluminium resistance and everything went out sweetly. To disassembly the pin that holds the float bowls in place I bought an automatic punch.
The bike runs sweeter, with all the grunt lost before the carb rebuilt and without POPS at the exhausts. And it not takes an eternity to get a properly working temperature, even with the cold plugs, around 90º when hard riding. ESSENTIAL
I bought a Factory ignition advancer at eBay. Like I tested in my previous FJ, the difference in performance is not too much, no way like the feeling of power that you get when you fit a KN or a couple of open cans, but the motor feels more sweet at low rpm.
The OE ignition advances abruptly between 1000 to 3500 rpm. If you fit the slide springs included in the Dynojet kit, the low speed driveability is less. The advancer restore the driveability.
I was simply going to measure the diameter of the back plate. Once you have that you can calculate the circumference. Once you have the circumference, divide by 360 and multiply by 4. File that amount in the opposite direction that the rotor spins at and I reckon that should do it.
Off with the outer cover to reveal big bolt. Put it into fifth gear foot on brake or piece of wood through spokes of the back wheel and down onto swing arm and undo big bolt. After that take out all the small screws holding cable brackets and pic up, move pic up out of the way.
I put bit of masking tape over the big screw holes and rubbed a grubby finger over the hole to get a measuring point
The next bit is up to you! I worked out that a movement of 4 degrees = elongating the boltholes by 3mm. This does seem to consider with the shadow from the washer. I marked the tape at 3mm and filed away took about 5 min. each hole. After offering the plate up a couple of time to make sure it moved ok with both fixing bolts in I reassembled every thing and hey presto job done.
I left the small clip off at the bottom as
the screw fouls on the bolt hole of the engine casing, you will
see for your self when you get to that point
The following mod has an impressive results in order to its simplicity and quick fix. Basically, the mod helps the carbs to absorb fuel from the tank, minimizing the deposit vacuum force. Then , the fuel flows more freely and , in consequence, you get faster engine acceleration.
HRC, Honda Research Corporation, used this trick in its 60, 70 & 80 race bikes. Hence the name of the tick
The theory is simple: you must maximize the tank vacuum mechanism, but taking care that the fuel and the fuel emissions don't exit from the tank cap.
PHOTO 1: you can see the 3 screws to remove. Drill the little hole that you can see in the close mechanism cap only with a drill 1 size bigger. Be careful don't disturb the screw that you can see at the left. It holds the cap lock mechanism, a little spring with a microscopic ball that jump from the place at the moment that you touch that crew, and after are near impossible to refit.
PHOTO 2: covered by the cap there is a spring. Be careful don't lost when you extract the cap. And take care when fixing that the lock mechanism works. You can see too the cap hole to drill.
PHOTO 4: we must extract that orange membranes fitted in the plastic piece. Be careful when refitting that plastic piece because it has a fixed way: you can see the air conduct way grabbed on it. I've drilled the two little holes that you can see at the plastic piece mounting hole with the same little drill than I used to the hole at the photo 1.
Fit everything back and VOILÁ!. AMAZING!! Outright, addictive and awesome power, Warp-Speed acceleration, less vibration and with less jumps at low revs. And combined with the other mods my bike feeling is like a turbo is fitted when the needle passes 6500 rpms. By end the engine feels like the FJ 1100 one!, only that with more low down torque and power. really, it is near a miracle!!!!!
The problems with the fuel petcock in the gravity feed models, FJ 1100 and FJ 1200 86-87, are easily noticed because of the engine not maintaining the speed and "jumping" back and forward at a constant throttle, or because when the tank is dismounted, the key loose fuel.
There is no other solution that changing the petcock, replacing for an expensive new one... until now, that the boys at RPM are selling a cheap repair kit.
The gross grommet between the thin membranes must be extracted, kept and refitted between the kit membranes part. It is an easy task, simply by hand, and in 5 min. is done and installed. Easier than it sound
VERY IMPORTANT NOTICE: the little pipe that connect with the fuel tube is simply pressure installed in the OE petcock. It could failed and snap off, splashing fuel all around and on a hot engine, causing the bike gets on fire.
Simply wired as displayed at the pics or with cold welding, the possible catastrophic failure is avoided