RIMS SWAP

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FRONT WHEEL SWAP

 

When I trade my 1100 and tested my 1st 1200, I noticed at once a great loss in agility, due to 1200´s 17 inch front wheel. Even dropping the yokes 1 cm (sliding fork tubes in the yokes up) I couldn't get the same feeling that with the 16 inch front wheel. Even today, testing my friends Edu and Mingo`s 1986 models, the 16" front tyre gets a fantastic light handling, with a super flickability on tight roads.

The 1200 front rim is a 3", not a normal 3,5", I fitted a 120/60/17 instead of the original 120/70/17 with very bad results: not only the bike dropped in thigh bends but there were not confidence at all at the front wheel when braking, and with much faster front tyre wear. My friend Richard, FJ & tyre service owner, recommends 110/70/17 front tyre, recommended fitment for a 3" rim. His brother Mario, FJ owner too, fit one of them with good confidence on breaking and light handling

The best solution is to install a front wheel from a FZR 1000 Genesis, 87-88 model. It is 3,5" wide and it is a bolt on item, and the 120 tyre fits better, without deforming its carcass. The difference in front feeling is awesome!. More stability when braking and much more feeling and confidence at the front wheel in all kinds of riding.

To fit a 1988-1990 Exup front wheel the best solution is drilling the fork vases to 17 mm to pass the EXUP front axel, fit an helicoil and use the complete rim, spacers and speedo. You can't use the EXUP 320 mm brake discs without a calliper adapter. The OE 298 discs with the brake mod explained at the brake section are superb, without need for more

 

GSXR SACS REAR WHEEL SWAP

 

 I planned to fit the Fazer 600 5" 17 inch rear wheel to my FJ to fit modern tyres in universal size 170/60/17 fitment. Well it doesn't fit without major mods that, sincerely, I didn't want to try. 

So I have done the GSXR 5,5" rim conversion. You can use any SACS 750 90 to 94 or 1100 91-92 rear rim. You need the complete rear wheel assy, with all the OE spacers, sprocket, rear disc and brake calliper. And 2 big 20mm. flats, that fit to each side of the axel, between the spacers and the swing arm. Ah!, and a longer rear brake hose.

It fits straight on, with a perfect rear sprocket alignment (laser measured). And it is a massive 3kg weight ligther than the EXUP rim!. Only be sure that the rear sprocket comes from a GSXR 750 90-94, because it is 530 chain size, vs. 1100´s 532 size. I keep the OE 17/40 front and rear even although the total drive is a little shorter than the OE, because of the shorter rear wheel diameter. I got the 40 th sprocket special-made by JT reference PN: JT 0816 CD40

 The only drawback is that you have to find a point to fix the rear brake calliper torque arm. As far as I know, there are 3 solutions:

1.- Fix a hand made torque arm to the main stand right fixing point (but you lost the main stand facility)

2.- Dismantling the swing arm and built a point at the front where to fix a hand made torque arm. See the upper left photo and the photo at the right. Mine is professional welded on

Awesome!The FZR 1000 torque arm fits near straight on. Only the brake calliper screw hole side must be enlarged to support the GSXR OE calliper attached screw. You can re-use the FJ front arm screw to fix it at the swing arm and the GSXR calliper OE arm screw at the back

The gearing gets longer around 3 km/h. With the 170/60, the wheel diameter is 1 cm shorter, not too much, and the gearing goes down 3 km/h. You could go back your OE gearing simply fitting a 1 tooth less rear sprocket.

And presto!. the chain is laser aligned. Job done!

You could fit a 180/55 tyre (it fits), but I think the 170 is the perfect size to keep agility. I've tested 180 rear on the Jose Carlos bike and the bike feels that wants to open your drive line when in a bend, and stay stand up when braking.

With the new rims and the 170 the bike feels simply like a modern superbike: rigid, solid, planted and nimble, all at the same time, due to the modern tyres. Comparatively, it feels like a FJR1300, only more nimble and shorter. (the FJR 1300 feels like a FJ with an ice-trolley at the rear)

 

EXUP 1990-1994 RIM SWAP (my friend J. Carlos signs the followig text. You can see his face when he viewed first time my bike rear rim). He has adapted the mod to his new 3CV model too

 

This conversion is not as difficult as it could be from a first view. I remember that it was a brain-teaser when I got the wheel from ebay. I thought that I was unable to follow others Fj owners instructions like Barry Edwards’s (http://www.fjmods.btinternet.co.uk/Wheels.htm).

But once meditated and thought over it I had to do it because I already had the wheel. So I went for it making some changes on Barry instructions in the process

For 1 year from being a proud FJ owner, and with a lot of  holes in my pockets …due to my brainless fitting of all improvements that I could and with a few frustrations and a couple of completely-nutter errors, I had fitted all the good mods that you could dream in my FJ: GSXR 1000 brake master cilinder,R1 callipers, metallic hoses all around, new OE fork springs (3XW Hagon springs are too hard for my taste, these are one of my errors  ), K&N air filter, Hagon shock (another of my errors) and FZR 1000 front rim.        

Then, plenty of envy to see Alf's FJ rim and after our travel to Portugal where I had a lot of juicy dreams about the Alf's FJ BIG tyre, I decided to try my last FJ owner frontier: the rear rim swap. With the rim in my hands I started the job with the Barry ideas and with Raul Coll instructions, another FJ owner... and my own measures, that I got to find a couple of details to solve the equation

The necessary mods are as follows:   

         1.- Cush drive hub/sprocket carrier lugs reduced 7 mm (photos 1, 2,3) and Cush drive rubbers 7 mm shaved (photo 4)

         2.- 7 mm shaved from the inner sprocket carrier, its spacer and the inner metal o-ring (photo 5)

         3.- Remove 2,5 mm of the Cush drive hub outer diameter (photo 6)

         4.- Remove 10 mm from the swing arm face of the FJ calliper mounting bracket (photo 7)

         5.- Shave 1 mm from  the right FJ collar spacer, the one between the sprocket carrier and the swing arm (photo 8)

 

 

         I cut the cushdrive rubbers with a handsaw and I kept the little studs, even although it is not necessary maintain them (photos 9,10). In fact, you only shave 9 mm because you have to sum the little stop at the inner rubber (photo9)

You must force a little bit the caliper bracket, but it fits.

If you take detailed measures, all that work is to shave 10 mm by each side to fit the rim straight in the swingarm.   

With all done, I fitted the rim and checked that the sprocket carrier weaved. It was due to a cushdrive rubber that was badly trimmed. Take the rubbers to a professional and don't use a handsaw like me!

The chain and the brake disc are perfectly aligned. The difference with the new rim fitted is awesome!. The bike feels more stable on straight line and more flickable on curvy roads. The perfect mode!

My bike has evolved from a little antiquated bike to a true modern superbike that it has nothing to envy on more modern hardware. With a planted and firm feel on the motorway and armchair comfort you can do 600 km diary like myself & Alf past summer. The brakes are superb, the handling is fantastic on tight curves, with a grunt ultra-reliable engine and with fantastic mechanical accessibility, far superior on today bikes

…you can't avoid feel in love with!!!!!!!

 

                    

 

Update August 2.017: RPM sell an 6,5 mm. offset front sprocket. Fitting it with this Exup swap make unnecessary the rear sprocket carrier modification, just being only the rear brake adapt the job to perform. The chain would be correct inline without any other mod only fitting this sprocket

 

FZR 1000 87-88 REAR RIM SWAP 

 

FJOCUK recommend the fitment of the 18 inch FZR 1000 Genesis rear wheel to fit a 160/60/18 tyre: it seems that you gain in agility too, but involves milling down the rear caliper bracket and torque arm,  a quantity of work similar to that Exup rim, and today you have a limited choice of tyres in 18" rim too, so I think the gains doesn't worth the job. The FJ 1100 at the photo fits FZR rims

 

 

YZF 600 THUNDERCAT REAR RIM 1.997-2.006 (créditos a Phill, de Fjowners.com)

 

The complete YZF600 rear wheel, including sprocket carrier, caliper mounting bracket, rotor, and the 2 wheel spacers is needed.


The Wheel you are looking for is from a YZF600R is from 1994 to 2007
BE CAREFUL, the YZF600R had 2 different rear rims. You must get the one that has stamped on it (4JH JAPAN R-86) on one spoke and on another spoke it has (YAMAHA ,J 17XMT5.00 DOT).


This complete YZF600R wheel including spacers and caliper bracket ,would go straight into a FJ1200 except for it is 16mm to wide, So that's why you have to take 8mm off the sprocket side spacer and then take 8mm off the bottom of the caliper mounting bracket.


Once you take the 8mm off both sides the complete YZF600R wheel will fit straight in, using your existing FJ1200 rear axle and brake caliper and caliper stay.

You may/will also need to take 3mm off the sprocket carrier face, where the sprocket sits ,so the chain is inline, but just buy a rear FJ1200 sprocket that has a 2 or 3 mm recessed step in it. Most sprockets have a step one side and are flat the other. Simply, mount it reversed.

I think this is the simplest swap of all. The Thundercat rim is 5" wide, so the tyre size recommended is 170/60/17. A 180 mm. tyre would physically fit, but most of the modern 180 tyres are designed for 5,5" wide rims, so It would be forced and I can't recommended it.

With a 170 the bike go perfect and it doesn't need a 180 in open road, so the rim size would not be a handicap, to my knowledge.